Drug Dealers Have Killed This Group

[C]

And Google does nothing of curse. Time for moderation.

[Recliner]

Post by C
And Google does nothing of curse. Time for moderation.

The drug dealers are indeed a pain that needs a cure, but what could Google
do about it? Usenet is one bit of the Internet it doesn't own or control.

[Theo]

Post by Recliner

Post by C
And Google does nothing of curse. Time for moderation.

The drug dealers are indeed a pain that needs a cure, but what could Google
do about it? Usenet is one bit of the Internet it doesn't own or control.

What Google did to uk.telecom was simply disable the group, meaning it
disappeared (including the archives) to anyone using their platform.
And various people's attempts to talk to Google CS were met with 'you should
talk to the group owner', at which point the chorus of 'there isn't one'
seems to have fallen on deaf ears.

A bit of killfiling would seem a more preferable solution.

Theo

[C]

Post by C
And Google does nothing of curse. Time for moderation.

Maybe creation of uk.transport.london (moderated) ?

[Guy Gorton]

Post by C
And Google does nothing of curse. Time for moderation.

It is, of course, an iritation but it takes me about 3 seconds to get
rid of each batch. Not a big penalty.

Guy Gorton

[Jarle Hammen Knudsen]

Post by C
And Google does nothing of curse. Time for moderation.

What alternative forums are there?

[Bryan Morris]

Post by Jarle Hammen Knudsen

Post by C
And Google does nothing of curse. Time for moderation.

What alternative forums are there?

You're using Forte Agent so I assume you're using Usenet not Google
anyway.

All the drug dealing posts are injected into Usenet via (so called)
Google Groups using "throwaway" gmail accounts

[Theo]

Post by Bryan Morris
All the drug dealing posts are injected into Usenet via (so called)
Google Groups using "throwaway" gmail accounts

Having killfiled everyone @gmail.com the group has reverted to its normal
self in my newsreader. Unfortunately that also hides any genuine posters
who use gmail accounts, so I suggest posting using a non-gmail account if
you're using Google Groups.

Theo

[Bryan Morris]

Post by Theo

Post by Bryan Morris
All the drug dealing posts are injected into Usenet via (so called)
Google Groups using "throwaway" gmail accounts

self in my newsreader. Unfortunately that also hides any genuine posters
who use gmail accounts, so I suggest posting using a non-gmail account if
you're using Google Groups.
Theo

Yes I've also killfiled but if anyone is interested just forward the
spam posts to groups-***@google.com

Problem is of course they use various accounts though using keywords in
headers help to block.

[Optimist]

Post by Jarle Hammen Knudsen

Post by C
And Google does nothing of curse. Time for moderation.

What alternative forums are there?

The uk.transport newsgroup is fairly quiet lately.

[Recliner]

Post by Optimist

Post by Jarle Hammen Knudsen

Post by C
And Google does nothing of curse. Time for moderation.

What alternative forums are there?

The uk.transport newsgroup is fairly quiet lately.

It tends to get occasional, long-running threads about driving (quality,
standards, techniques, etc), but is otherwise dead. But at least it doesn't
get the drug dealer spam.

[Guy Gorton]

Post by C
And Google does nothing of curse. Time for moderation.

A generous dose of drug scam on this group today, marked and
permanently deleted in about 3 seconds. Quicker than writing this
note !!.

Guy Gorton

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Post by C
And Google does nothing of curse. Time for moderation.

[tim...]

Post by C
And Google does nothing of curse. Time for moderation.

returned from 6 day Xmas break

59 messages waiting

not a single one a genuine post

tim

[Optimist]

Post by tim...

Post by C
And Google does nothing of curse. Time for moderation.

returned from 6 day Xmas break
59 messages waiting
not a single one a genuine post
tim

Whenever I see such a post, I set up a filter to ignore messages with particular word(s) in the
subject line.

[tim...]

Post by Optimist

Post by tim...

Post by C
And Google does nothing of curse. Time for moderation.

returned from 6 day Xmas break
59 messages waiting
not a single one a genuine post
tim

Whenever I see such a post, I set up a filter to ignore messages with
particular word(s) in the
subject line.

i have

not very successfully, obviously

[Roland Perry]

Post by Optimist

Post by tim...

Post by C
And Google does nothing of curse. Time for moderation.

returned from 6 day Xmas break
59 messages waiting
not a single one a genuine post

Whenever I see such a post, I set up a filter to ignore messages with
particular word(s) in the subject line.

Works for me.

[Ian Jackson]

Post by Roland Perry

Post by Optimist

Post by tim...

Post by C
And Google does nothing of curse. Time for moderation.

returned from 6 day Xmas break
59 messages waiting
not a single one a genuine post

Whenever I see such a post, I set up a filter to ignore messages with
particular word(s) in the subject line.

Works for me.

The trouble is that the Subject line keeps changing (especially the
fancy names of the drugs). I have over twenty to trigger a kill, and I'm
fed up with constantly having to add to it.
However, it was pointed out a few days ago that all the drug posts have
a Gmail address - so simply killfile all posts from *@gmail.com (or
something similar, depending on your news client). While that will kill
any bona fide posts with a Gmail address, there don't actually seem to
be any at the moment.

My alternative suggestion was for bona fide posters always to add a
known 'code word' to the Subject like, and to trigger to accept on that
(and to reject all posts without it).

[Bryan Morris]

Post by Ian Jackson
The trouble is that the Subject line keeps changing (especially the
fancy names of the drugs). I have over twenty to trigger a kill, and
I'm fed up with constantly having to add to it.

Why they target this group I know not and yes they use constantly
changing subject lines to make it harder to kill on subjects.

I say "they" I suspect it is one bloody minded individual.

Post by Ian Jackson
However, it was pointed out a few days ago that all the drug posts have
something similar, depending on your news client). While that will kill
any bona fide posts with a Gmail address, there don't actually seem to
be any at the moment.

I now have none of these by simply killing all posts from gmail
addresses. As you say there doesn't appear to be any genuine posters
using that .

Post by Ian Jackson
My alternative suggestion was for bona fide posters always to add a
known 'code word' to the Subject like, and to trigger to accept on that
(and to reject all posts without it).

Messier way to achieve the same effect. Any non regular poster who isn't
aware of this will never be read

[Offramp]

Post by Bryan Morris
I now have none of these by simply killing all posts from gmail
addresses. As you say there doesn't appear to be any genuine posters
using that

Can you read this?

[tim...]

Post by Offramp

Post by Bryan Morris
I now have none of these by simply killing all posts from gmail
addresses. As you say there doesn't appear to be any genuine posters
using that

Can you read this?

I guess he probably can't

[Bryan Morris]

Post by tim...

Post by Offramp

Post by Bryan Morris
I now have none of these by simply killing all posts from gmail
addresses. As you say there doesn't appear to be any genuine posters
using that

Can you read this?

I guess he probably can't

Correct, but retrievable

[Bryan Morris]

Post by Offramp

Post by Bryan Morris
I now have none of these by simply killing all posts from gmail
addresses. As you say there doesn't appear to be any genuine posters
using that

Can you read this?

Retrieved and (experimentally) added to my accept rule.

[Offramp]

Post by Bryan Morris
Retrieved and (experimentally) added to my accept rule.

Thanks!
I have done it! I have been accepted for Usenet!
I am the Louis Pasteur of newsgroups.

[Bryan Morris]

Post by Offramp

Post by Bryan Morris
Retrieved and (experimentally) added to my accept rule.

Thanks!
I have done it! I have been accepted for Usenet!
I am the Louis Pasteur of newsgroups.

LOL yep.
For those particularly using Turnpike, the kill rules tab also has a
radio button named "accept". If any person is added to it, even using
gmail, it overrides the gmail kill rule.

[Roland Perry]

Post by Bryan Morris
For those particularly using Turnpike, the kill rules tab also has a
radio button named "accept".

It's the standard Turnpike "new rule" dialogue which are generically
either "accept" or "reject".

Post by Bryan Morris
If any person is added to it, even using gmail, it overrides the gmail
kill rule.

Only if that rule is higher up the list [Move up], so that it's actioned
first.

[Ian Jackson]

Post by Bryan Morris

Post by Ian Jackson
The trouble is that the Subject line keeps changing (especially the
fancy names of the drugs). I have over twenty to trigger a kill, and
I'm fed up with constantly having to add to it.

Why they target this group I know not and yes they use constantly
changing subject lines to make it harder to kill on subjects.
I say "they" I suspect it is one bloody minded individual.

Post by Ian Jackson
However, it was pointed out a few days ago that all the drug posts
(or something similar, depending on your news client). While that will
kill any bona fide posts with a Gmail address, there don't actually
seem to be any at the moment.

I now have none of these by simply killing all posts from gmail
addresses. As you say there doesn't appear to be any genuine posters
using that .

Post by Ian Jackson
My alternative suggestion was for bona fide posters always to add a
known 'code word' to the Subject like, and to trigger to accept on
that (and to reject all posts without it).

Messier way to achieve the same effect. Any non regular poster who
isn't aware of this will never be read

But if you're rejecting all Gmailers, neither will* any bona fide
posters with Gmail addresses.
*This depends on what your news client does - or can do - with rejected
posts. As I said before, mine natively lists all rejected posts as a
separate group, thus giving you the opportunity to cast your eye down it
in case there are any non-drug posts. Others might simply delete them,
and if this is not what you want, you will have to tell it what to do.

[Roland Perry]

Post by Bryan Morris

Post by Ian Jackson
However, it was pointed out a few days ago that all the drug posts
(or something similar, depending on your news client). While that will
kill any bona fide posts with a Gmail address, there don't actually
seem to be any at the moment.

I now have none of these by simply killing all posts from gmail
addresses. As you say there doesn't appear to be any genuine posters
using that .

There's at least five people in the current month.