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Christopher Jolly
2019-01-27 14:15:00 UTC
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Overground 378232 will debut on the 0648 Barking - Gospel Oak tomorrow.

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https://mobile.twitter.com/cmpd_date/status/1089514271866798080

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Recliner
2019-01-27 15:17:36 UTC
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Overground 378232 will debut on the 0648 Barking - Gospel Oak tomorrow.
https://mobile.twitter.com/cmpd_date/status/1089514271866798080
710s 'still months from service'?
John Kenyon
2019-01-28 12:34:41 UTC
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Post by Christopher Jolly
Overground 378232 will debut on the 0648 Barking - Gospel Oak tomorrow.
https://mobile.twitter.com/cmpd_date/status/1089514271866798080
710s 'still months from service'?
According to Real Time Trains they've been running on the WCML and
visiting Cheshunt via Liverpool Street.


24th/25th January
2210 Willesden TMD-Tring
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97188/2019/01/24/advanced
Tring-"Wembley Ny No 3 Road"
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97189/2019/01/24/advanced
Back to MKC
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97184/2019/01/25/advanced
Back to Wembley
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97185/2019/01/25/advanced
And MKC again
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97186/2019/01/25/advanced
Then back to sleep at Willesden
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97187/2019/01/25/advanced

24th/25th
2050 Willesden TMD-Liverpool Street
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O76835/2019/01/24/advanced
Out to Cheshunt and back:
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K91919/2019/01/24/advanced
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K91920/2019/01/25/advanced
Then back to Willesden:
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K91921/2019/01/25/advanced
Recliner
2019-01-28 15:34:47 UTC
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Post by Recliner
Post by Christopher Jolly
Overground 378232 will debut on the 0648 Barking - Gospel Oak tomorrow.
https://mobile.twitter.com/cmpd_date/status/1089514271866798080
710s 'still months from service'?
According to Real Time Trains they've been running on the WCML and
visiting Cheshunt via Liverpool Street.
24th/25th January
2210 Willesden TMD-Tring
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97188/2019/01/24/advanced
Tring-"Wembley Ny No 3 Road"
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97189/2019/01/24/advanced
Back to MKC
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97184/2019/01/25/advanced
Back to Wembley
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97185/2019/01/25/advanced
And MKC again
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97186/2019/01/25/advanced
Then back to sleep at Willesden
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97187/2019/01/25/advanced
24th/25th
2050 Willesden TMD-Liverpool Street
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O76835/2019/01/24/advanced
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K91919/2019/01/24/advanced
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K91920/2019/01/25/advanced
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K91921/2019/01/25/advanced
Last week, I saw one parked in the Willesden Junction station bay platform,
attached to an 08 shunter.
Charles Ellson
2019-01-28 19:07:56 UTC
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 15:34:47 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
Post by Recliner
Post by John Kenyon
Post by Recliner
Post by Christopher Jolly
Overground 378232 will debut on the 0648 Barking - Gospel Oak tomorrow.
https://mobile.twitter.com/cmpd_date/status/1089514271866798080
710s 'still months from service'?
According to Real Time Trains they've been running on the WCML and
visiting Cheshunt via Liverpool Street.
24th/25th January
2210 Willesden TMD-Tring
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97188/2019/01/24/advanced
Tring-"Wembley Ny No 3 Road"
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97189/2019/01/24/advanced
Back to MKC
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97184/2019/01/25/advanced
Back to Wembley
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97185/2019/01/25/advanced
And MKC again
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97186/2019/01/25/advanced
Then back to sleep at Willesden
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97187/2019/01/25/advanced
24th/25th
2050 Willesden TMD-Liverpool Street
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O76835/2019/01/24/advanced
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K91919/2019/01/24/advanced
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K91920/2019/01/25/advanced
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K91921/2019/01/25/advanced
Last week, I saw one parked in the Willesden Junction station bay platform,
attached to an 08 shunter.
If they haven't been moved since a few weeks ago, there is a pack of
them hiding in the SW sidings.
Recliner
2019-01-28 21:27:37 UTC
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Post by Charles Ellson
On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 15:34:47 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
Post by Recliner
Post by John Kenyon
Post by Recliner
Post by Christopher Jolly
Overground 378232 will debut on the 0648 Barking - Gospel Oak tomorrow.
https://mobile.twitter.com/cmpd_date/status/1089514271866798080
710s 'still months from service'?
According to Real Time Trains they've been running on the WCML and
visiting Cheshunt via Liverpool Street.
24th/25th January
2210 Willesden TMD-Tring
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97188/2019/01/24/advanced
Tring-"Wembley Ny No 3 Road"
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97189/2019/01/24/advanced
Back to MKC
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97184/2019/01/25/advanced
Back to Wembley
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97185/2019/01/25/advanced
And MKC again
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97186/2019/01/25/advanced
Then back to sleep at Willesden
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97187/2019/01/25/advanced
24th/25th
2050 Willesden TMD-Liverpool Street
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O76835/2019/01/24/advanced
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K91919/2019/01/24/advanced
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K91920/2019/01/25/advanced
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K91921/2019/01/25/advanced
Last week, I saw one parked in the Willesden Junction station bay platform,
attached to an 08 shunter.
If they haven't been moved since a few weeks ago, there is a pack of
them hiding in the SW sidings.
Yes, but I'd not seen one parked in the station before.
Charles Ellson
2019-01-29 00:15:20 UTC
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 21:27:37 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
Post by Recliner
Post by Charles Ellson
On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 15:34:47 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
Post by Recliner
Post by John Kenyon
Post by Recliner
Post by Christopher Jolly
Overground 378232 will debut on the 0648 Barking - Gospel Oak tomorrow.
https://mobile.twitter.com/cmpd_date/status/1089514271866798080
710s 'still months from service'?
According to Real Time Trains they've been running on the WCML and
visiting Cheshunt via Liverpool Street.
24th/25th January
2210 Willesden TMD-Tring
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97188/2019/01/24/advanced
Tring-"Wembley Ny No 3 Road"
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97189/2019/01/24/advanced
Back to MKC
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97184/2019/01/25/advanced
Back to Wembley
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97185/2019/01/25/advanced
And MKC again
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97186/2019/01/25/advanced
Then back to sleep at Willesden
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97187/2019/01/25/advanced
24th/25th
2050 Willesden TMD-Liverpool Street
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O76835/2019/01/24/advanced
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K91919/2019/01/24/advanced
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K91920/2019/01/25/advanced
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K91921/2019/01/25/advanced
Last week, I saw one parked in the Willesden Junction station bay platform,
attached to an 08 shunter.
If they haven't been moved since a few weeks ago, there is a pack of
them hiding in the SW sidings.
Yes, but I'd not seen one parked in the station before.
If there was a gronk attached then it sounds like it was maybe in the
way of something else in the maintenance depot. They do seem to be
getting shoved into several spaces around Willesden not usually
occupied by passenger trains.
Robin9
2019-01-29 15:10:40 UTC
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Boltar vindicated! TfL converted to Boltar's point of view! Let the
church bells ring out! I travelled in that 378 along GOBLIN today
at 13.00.

Very unusually, there were station staff on the platform and
they advised passengers to move further down the platform
as the train would be longer than normal. 387232 soon arrived
and there were empty seats available!

To prepare passengers for electric trains, the two car 172s will
now come to a halt at the end of platforms even if the exit is
at the other end. Clearly TfL expect the entire service to convert
to EMUs sooner rather than later.

It was a double first for me today. While waiting for the 378,
two westbound freight trains in succession lumbered through
Leyton Midland Road Station. I've never experienced that before


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2019-01-29 20:39:36 UTC
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Post by Robin9
Boltar vindicated! TfL converted to Boltar's point of view! Let the
church bells ring out! I travelled in that 378 along GOBLIN today
at 13.00.
I get no pleasure from it. Its our money these clowns have wasted on the 710
herd of white elephants. And apart from the dodgy software they're also fugly
compared to the 378s.
Post by Robin9
It was a double first for me today. While waiting for the 378,
two westbound freight trains in succession lumbered through
Leyton Midland Road Station. I've never experienced that before.
Spend enough time at Highbury waiting for an ELL train to finally turn up and
then wait 7 mins for it to reverse and you'll see plenty of freight trains go
past.
Basil Jet
2019-01-30 12:44:08 UTC
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Post by Robin9
Boltar vindicated! TfL converted to Boltar's point of view! Let the
church bells ring out! I travelled in that 378 along GOBLIN today
at 13.00.
I get no pleasure from it. Its our money these clowns have wasted on the 710
herd of white elephants. And apart from the dodgy software they're also fugly
compared to the 378s.
Post by Robin9
It was a double first for me today. While waiting for the 378,
two westbound freight trains in succession lumbered through
Leyton Midland Road Station. I've never experienced that before.
Spend enough time at Highbury waiting for an ELL train to finally turn up and
then wait 7 mins for it to reverse and you'll see plenty of freight trains go
past.
Oh good lord, now you're whining about the fact that trains have
recovery time and don't need it because they're on time.
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b***@rdqmsj96uxo4b1ad29s1b.gov.uk
2019-01-30 12:51:00 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
Post by b***@13c7.gov.uk
On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 15:10:40 +0000
Post by Robin9
Boltar vindicated! TfL converted to Boltar's point of view! Let the
church bells ring out! I travelled in that 378 along GOBLIN today
at 13.00.
I get no pleasure from it. Its our money these clowns have wasted on the 710
herd of white elephants. And apart from the dodgy software they're also fugly
compared to the 378s.
Post by Robin9
It was a double first for me today. While waiting for the 378,
two westbound freight trains in succession lumbered through
Leyton Midland Road Station. I've never experienced that before.
Spend enough time at Highbury waiting for an ELL train to finally turn up and
then wait 7 mins for it to reverse and you'll see plenty of freight trains go
past.
Oh good lord, now you're whining about the fact that trains have
recovery time and don't need it because they're on time.
When the East London Line moved from being a tube line to part of the overground
we were promised a metro level service. So far they're failed to deliver. A
10 minute wait in the morning rush hour is NOT acceptable. As for turn around
time - in many other countries a driver is waiting at the terminus for a train
to arrive and he immediately takes over. Stepping back I believe its called.
Turn around time about 1 minute.
Roland Perry
2019-01-30 14:46:24 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
Oh good lord, now you're whining about the fact that trains have
recovery time and don't need it because they're on time.
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2019-01-30 19:51:23 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
Oh good lord, now you're whining about the fact that trains have
recovery time and don't need it because they're on time.
___________________________
/| /| | |
||__|| | Please don't |
/ O O\__ feed |
/ \ the trolls |
/ \ \ |
/ _ \ \ ----------------------
/ |\____\ \ ||
/ | | | |\____/ ||
/ \|_|_|/ | __||
/ / \ |____| ||
/ | | /| | --|
| | |// |____ --|
* _ | |_|_|_| | \-/
*-- _--\ _ \ // |
/ _ \\ _ // | /
* / \_ /- | - | |
* ___ c_c_c_C/ \C_c_c_c____________
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Roland Perry
2019-01-30 20:32:05 UTC
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Post by b***@dn4zfpd2l8stn38.gov.uk
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 14:46:24 +0000
Post by Roland Perry
Post by Basil Jet
Oh good lord, now you're whining about the fact that trains have
recovery time and don't need it because they're on time.
___________________________
/| /| | |
||__|| | Please don't |
/ O O\__ feed |
/ \ the trolls |
/ \ \ |
/ _ \ \ ----------------------
/ |\____\ \ ||
/ | | | |\____/ ||
/ \|_|_|/ | __||
/ / \ |____| ||
/ | | /| | --|
| | |// |____ --|
* _ | |_|_|_| | \-/
*-- _--\ _ \ // |
/ _ \\ _ // | /
* / \_ /- | - | |
* ___ c_c_c_C/ \C_c_c_c____________
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Self portrait?
In the sense that I could be holding a notice saying "don't feed the
trolls", then yes.
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Robin9
2019-02-26 10:37:49 UTC
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Goblin had overhead line problems yesterday and a reduced
service with 172s only was in operation.

I suspect that the decision to continue terminating the service
at Gospel Oak and consequently have four car trains instead of
five will cause over crowding quite quickly. Already some of the
378s are pretty full with standing passengers.

If the great mantra of rail enthusiasts - suppressed demand - is
valid, the line might well see increased patronage long before
the Barking Riverside extension comes into play. It's possible
that eventually four car trains will be inadequate. Then, TfL will
have to negotiate for paths between Gospel Oak and Willesden
Junction and the platforms will have to be extended further. My
local station could easily accommodate six car trains


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Recliner
2019-02-26 17:22:23 UTC
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Goblin had overhead line problems yesterday and a reduced
service with 172s only was in operation.
I suspect that the decision to continue terminating the service
at Gospel Oak and consequently have four car trains instead of
five will cause over crowding quite quickly. Already some of the
378s are pretty full with standing passengers.
If the great mantra of rail enthusiasts - suppressed demand - is
valid, the line might well see increased patronage long before
the Barking Riverside extension comes into play. It's possible
that eventually four car trains will be inadequate. Then, TfL will
have to negotiate for paths between Gospel Oak and Willesden
Junction and the platforms will have to be extended further. My
local station could easily accommodate six car trains.
Wouldn't it be possible simply to run a more frequent GOBRLIN service, say
5 tph?
Robin9
2019-02-27 09:41:45 UTC
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I don't know if it would be possible throughout the day as
there are also freight movements on the line. Presumably
a fifth passenger train would mean a regular service of a train
every twelve minutes and the twelve minute gap might not
be sufficient for freight trains. It's noticeable they already
follow closely on the heels of passenger trains.

The other issue that will arise if patronage grows is Platform 2 at
Blackhorse Road Station. A very large proportion of the passengers
east of Blackhorse Road change there to and from the Victoria Line.
In the late afternoon/early evening the narrow platform 2 is quite
crowded and some passengers wait on the stairs or the footbridge.
TfL will have to widen Platform 2 at some stage. Land is available!

I hope they also sort out the public address system on that platform
which distorts the messages


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Recliner
2019-02-27 10:46:02 UTC
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I don't know if it would be possible throughout the day as
there are also freight movements on the line. Presumably
a fifth passenger train would mean a regular service of a train
every twelve minutes and the twelve minute gap might not
be sufficient for freight trains. It's noticeable they already
follow closely on the heels of passenger trains.
Maybe only run 5 tph in the peaks, with limited or no freight paths?
Post by Robin9
The other issue that will arise if patronage grows is Platform 2 at
Blackhorse Road Station. A very large proportion of the passengers
east of Blackhorse Road change there to and from the Victoria Line.
In the late afternoon/early evening the narrow platform 2 is quite
crowded and some passengers wait on the stairs or the footbridge.
TfL will have to widen Platform 2 at some stage. Land is available!
I hope they also sort out the public address system on that platform
which distorts the messages.
Are any 710s running in test mode on the line yet?
Mike Bristow
2019-02-27 13:02:42 UTC
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Are any 710s running in test mode on the line yet?
I understand that they've been on the line, but I haven't
seen any.
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Robin9
2019-02-28 00:29:02 UTC
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I haven't seen any either!

I travelled on the line today. I arrived at Leyton Midland at 11.04,
four minutes after the previous train had left. A class 59 with 26 on
came through the station towards yellow signals at about 25 mph.
Bearing in mind the preceding passenger train will stop at
Walthamstow Queens Road but the freight train won't, there's not
much slack in the system.

The good news is they've fixed the public address system on Platform
2 at Blackhorse Road


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Basil Jet
2019-02-28 03:31:46 UTC
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I haven't seen any either!
You can see them here...



The streamlined front was a surprise... will they do over 100mph on the
LTS part?
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Recliner
2019-02-28 09:50:08 UTC
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Post by Robin9
I haven't seen any either!
You can see them here...
http://youtu.be/_iTkxvtOKTE
I've already seen them parked in the depot and in the bay platform at
Willesden Junction, but not running on their future tracks.
Post by Basil Jet
The streamlined front was a surprise... will they do over 100mph on the
LTS part?
No, max 75mph. The front is just the standard Aventra design.
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2019-02-28 19:52:57 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
Post by Robin9
I haven't seen any either!
You can see them here...
http://youtu.be/_iTkxvtOKTE
I've already seen them parked in the depot and in the bay platform at
Willesden Junction, but not running on their future tracks.
Post by Basil Jet
The streamlined front was a surprise... will they do over 100mph on the
LTS part?
No, max 75mph. The front is just the standard Aventra design.
Best viewed from a distance through dark glasses IMO. Still, at least the
designers of the Class 70 won't feel so alone now.
Recliner
2019-02-28 22:54:15 UTC
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Robin9 <***@londonbanter.co.uk> wrote:
I haven't seen any either!
Post by Robin9
I travelled on the line today. I arrived at Leyton Midland at 11.04,
four minutes after the previous train had left. A class 59 with 26 on
came through the station towards yellow signals at about 25 mph.
Bearing in mind the preceding passenger train will stop at
Walthamstow Queens Road but the freight train won't, there's not
much slack in the system.
The good news is they've fixed the public address system on Platform
2 at Blackhorse Road!
I see from Twitter that ARL staff drove the first 710 to Barking today.
This was it reversing at Willesden low level:
<Loading Image...>

@RidingtheGoblin tweeted, "… this was the first time ARL staff had got
their hands on a Class 710 apart from visits to the Asfordby test centre.
Proper crew training has yet to start. Each driver needs a 4-day conversion
course, so 710s COULD be in public service in a couple of months at very
earliest".
Recliner
2019-03-08 09:38:48 UTC
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I haven't seen any either!
I travelled on the line today. I arrived at Leyton Midland at 11.04,
four minutes after the previous train had left. A class 59 with 26 on
came through the station towards yellow signals at about 25 mph.
Bearing in mind the preceding passenger train will stop at
Walthamstow Queens Road but the freight train won't, there's not
much slack in the system.
The good news is they've fixed the public address system on Platform
2 at Blackhorse Road!
I'm wondering if 710 passenger services have quietly started. For example:
<http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/L90584/2019/03/07/advanced>

Or was it actually run by a 378?
Robin9
2019-03-08 10:02:48 UTC
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Very interesting! I'd heard that the office for Road & Rail (ORR)
have not yet given their approval of 710s for passenger service,
and the general assumption is that it'll be two months or so
before they start earning their living. Perhaps one unit has
been authorised early


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Robin9
2019-03-15 12:22:33 UTC
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It seems that 710 running on GOBLIN has started very quietly:



I must point out to anyone unfamiliar with this stretch of the
railway, that the over-use of the zoom distorts enormously
the layout of the route. The curve just east of Leytonstone
High Road Station is nothing like as severe as suggested and
the gradient west of the station does not drop down in the
manner shown..

I notice that in the current issue of Rail Christian Wolmar is
very critical of the way the GOBLIN electrification has been
handled


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Basil Jet
2019-03-15 13:00:48 UTC
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http://youtu.be/Z3wHHnLw3pk
I must point out to anyone unfamiliar with this stretch of the
railway, that the over-use of the zoom distorts enormously
the layout of the route. The curve just east of Leytonstone
High Road Station is nothing like as severe as suggested and
the gradient west of the station does not drop down in the
manner shown..
I notice that in the current issue of Rail Christian Wolmar is
very critical of the way the GOBLIN electrification has been
handled.
So why are they talking about halving frequency from March 18th if the
new trains are good to go? Or is that now scrapped?
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Mike Bristow
2019-03-15 14:42:40 UTC
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So why are they talking about halving frequency from March 18th if the
new trains are good to go? Or is that now scrapped?
Driver training can now start, AIUI.
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Recliner
2019-03-15 16:39:49 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
So why are they talking about halving frequency from March 18th if the
new trains are good to go? Or is that now scrapped?
Driver training can now start, AIUI.
Of course, that's going to be even more frustrating for passengers
suffering a 2tph service, as they watch the empty new trains running
through, and even stopping, at their stations without the doors opening.

I would have thought it ought to have been possible to train a few Goblin
drivers on the new trains while they've been test running on the WCML. That
might have allowed a couple (ideally three) of the new trains to enter
service next week.
Robin9
2019-03-15 17:44:38 UTC
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Message boards today at Leyton Midland Road Station
state the frequency will be halved in a few days time.
I've yet to see this authorised and functioning 710 so
perhaps it's being used for crew training now


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Robin9
Recliner
2019-03-15 21:29:29 UTC
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Message boards today at Leyton Midland Road Station
state the frequency will be halved in a few days time.
I've yet to see this authorised and functioning 710 so
perhaps it's being used for crew training now.
Yes. I think they've been test running at night on the line for a few
weeks, followed by a diesel Thunderbird loco at first. Presumably it's now
reliable enough to run among service trains without an accompanying rescue
loco. There have been several units on test, not sure how many on the
Goblin.

The good news is that if the problems are purely in the TMS software, it
shouldn't take long to bring all the delivered units (six?) up to spec.

The weekly TfL newsletter says:
"From Monday 18 March, there will be a reduced weekday service between
Gospel Oak and Barking. Trains will run about every 30 minutes. A reduced
service will continue on this route every day until further notice, due to
a lack of available trains. For weekday train times, check our temporary
timetable. "
Basil Jet
2019-03-16 04:38:02 UTC
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Message boards today at Leyton Midland Road Station
state the frequency will be halved in a few days time.
I've yet to see this authorised and functioning 710 so
perhaps it's being used for crew training now.
Yes. I think they've been test running at night on the line for a few
weeks, followed by a diesel Thunderbird loco at first. Presumably it's now
reliable enough to run among service trains without an accompanying rescue
loco. There have been several units on test, not sure how many on the
Goblin.
The good news is that if the problems are purely in the TMS software, it
shouldn't take long to bring all the delivered units (six?) up to spec.
"From Monday 18 March, there will be a reduced weekday service between
Gospel Oak and Barking. Trains will run about every 30 minutes. A reduced
service will continue on this route every day until further notice, due to
a lack of available trains. For weekday train times, check our temporary
timetable. "
You'd think they would have at least mentioned that the halving of the
frequency will be accompanied by a doubling of the train length.
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Recliner
2019-03-16 16:19:08 UTC
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Message boards today at Leyton Midland Road Station
state the frequency will be halved in a few days time.
I've yet to see this authorised and functioning 710 so
perhaps it's being used for crew training now.
Yes. I think they've been test running at night on the line for a few
weeks, followed by a diesel Thunderbird loco at first. Presumably it's now
reliable enough to run among service trains without an accompanying rescue
loco. There have been several units on test, not sure how many on the
Goblin.
The good news is that if the problems are purely in the TMS software, it
shouldn't take long to bring all the delivered units (six?) up to spec.
"From Monday 18 March, there will be a reduced weekday service between
Gospel Oak and Barking. Trains will run about every 30 minutes. A reduced
service will continue on this route every day until further notice, due to
a lack of available trains. For weekday train times, check our temporary
timetable. "
You'd think they would have at least mentioned that the halving of the
frequency will be accompanied by a doubling of the train length.
It's not really: the three 4-car 378s were already in service on the line.
All that changes from today is that the last three 172s have gone.
Basil Jet
2019-03-16 16:47:49 UTC
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Message boards today at Leyton Midland Road Station
state the frequency will be halved in a few days time.
I've yet to see this authorised and functioning 710 so
perhaps it's being used for crew training now.
Yes. I think they've been test running at night on the line for a few
weeks, followed by a diesel Thunderbird loco at first. Presumably it's now
reliable enough to run among service trains without an accompanying rescue
loco. There have been several units on test, not sure how many on the
Goblin.
The good news is that if the problems are purely in the TMS software, it
shouldn't take long to bring all the delivered units (six?) up to spec.
"From Monday 18 March, there will be a reduced weekday service between
Gospel Oak and Barking. Trains will run about every 30 minutes. A reduced
service will continue on this route every day until further notice, due to
a lack of available trains. For weekday train times, check our temporary
timetable. "
You'd think they would have at least mentioned that the halving of the
frequency will be accompanied by a doubling of the train length.
It's not really: the three 4-car 378s were already in service on the line.
All that changes from today is that the last three 172s have gone.
It's a doubling of the train lengths present a few months ago.
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Basil Jet - Current favourite song...
Spratleys Japs - Hands (Marc Riley session)
http://youtu.be/PTFmVrE1WAc
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