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710 on ELL?
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Mike Bristow
2019-04-14 19:33:33 UTC
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On this mornings run, I think I saw a class 710 going over the
canal between Hoxton and Haggerston. (Maybe I misremember, and
it was between Cambridge Heath and London Fields).

But it begs the question: how goes the introduction? Do we
know when they're likely to enter service yet? Are we at the
stage where driver training can start in earnist yet, or are
they still trying to debug all the things?

Cheers,
Mike
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Roland Perry
2019-04-15 07:52:40 UTC
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Post by Mike Bristow
On this mornings run, I think I saw a class 710 going over the
canal between Hoxton and Haggerston. (Maybe I misremember, and
it was between Cambridge Heath and London Fields).
But it begs the question: how goes the introduction? Do we
know when they're likely to enter service yet? Are we at the
stage where driver training can start in earnist yet, or are
they still trying to debug all the things?
On a related note, GN tweeted recently that "Today the third class 717
train entered all-day weekday passenger service on routes to & from
Moorgate." So that explains why they are bit lacking in comfort?
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David Walters
2019-04-15 10:02:52 UTC
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Post by Mike Bristow
On this mornings run, I think I saw a class 710 going over the
canal between Hoxton and Haggerston. (Maybe I misremember, and
it was between Cambridge Heath and London Fields).
But it begs the question: how goes the introduction? Do we
know when they're likely to enter service yet? Are we at the
stage where driver training can start in earnist yet, or are
they still trying to debug all the things?
ORR conditionally authorised 710s for
passenger use in AC mode on Thursday.
https://orr.gov.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/40981/interoperability-authorisation-bombardier-class-710-2019-04-11.pdf

There seem to be a couple of thing Arriva Rail have to do before they
can run a passenger service though so we aren't quite there yet.
b***@jwg3iws7d.gov.uk
2019-04-15 10:14:39 UTC
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Post by David Walters
Post by Mike Bristow
On this mornings run, I think I saw a class 710 going over the
canal between Hoxton and Haggerston. (Maybe I misremember, and
it was between Cambridge Heath and London Fields).
But it begs the question: how goes the introduction? Do we
know when they're likely to enter service yet? Are we at the
stage where driver training can start in earnist yet, or are
they still trying to debug all the things?
ORR conditionally authorised 710s for
passenger use in AC mode on Thursday.
If they're only to run on the Goblin, why do they have DC ability too? Will
they ever get sent down to Richmond?
Graeme Wall
2019-04-15 11:18:26 UTC
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On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 11:02:52 +0100
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Post by Mike Bristow
On this mornings run, I think I saw a class 710 going over the
canal between Hoxton and Haggerston. (Maybe I misremember, and
it was between Cambridge Heath and London Fields).
But it begs the question: how goes the introduction? Do we
know when they're likely to enter service yet? Are we at the
stage where driver training can start in earnist yet, or are
they still trying to debug all the things?
ORR conditionally authorised 710s for
passenger use in AC mode on Thursday.
If they're only to run on the Goblin, why do they have DC ability too? Will
they ever get sent down to Richmond?
Do they need it getting to and from depots?
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David Walters
2019-04-15 11:44:28 UTC
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On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 11:02:52 +0100
Post by David Walters
Post by Mike Bristow
On this mornings run, I think I saw a class 710 going over the
canal between Hoxton and Haggerston. (Maybe I misremember, and
it was between Cambridge Heath and London Fields).
But it begs the question: how goes the introduction? Do we
know when they're likely to enter service yet? Are we at the
stage where driver training can start in earnist yet, or are
they still trying to debug all the things?
ORR conditionally authorised 710s for
passenger use in AC mode on Thursday.
If they're only to run on the Goblin, why do they have DC ability too? Will
they ever get sent down to Richmond?
They are also planned to run on West Anglia, NLL, WLL and Watford DC
but I don't think they are needed as urgently there.
Basil Jet
2019-04-15 12:04:18 UTC
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Post by David Walters
Post by Mike Bristow
On this mornings run, I think I saw a class 710 going over the
canal between Hoxton and Haggerston. (Maybe I misremember, and
it was between Cambridge Heath and London Fields).
But it begs the question: how goes the introduction? Do we
know when they're likely to enter service yet? Are we at the
stage where driver training can start in earnist yet, or are
they still trying to debug all the things?
ORR conditionally authorised 710s for
passenger use in AC mode on Thursday.
If they're only to run on the Goblin, why do they have DC ability too? Will
they ever get sent down to Richmond?
They are also planned to run on West Anglia, NLL, WLL and Watford DC
but I don't think they are needed as urgently there.
Not the NLL, that's keeping the 378s.
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David Walters
2019-04-15 12:28:15 UTC
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Post by Mike Bristow
On this mornings run, I think I saw a class 710 going over the
canal between Hoxton and Haggerston. (Maybe I misremember, and
it was between Cambridge Heath and London Fields).
But it begs the question: how goes the introduction? Do we
know when they're likely to enter service yet? Are we at the
stage where driver training can start in earnist yet, or are
they still trying to debug all the things?
ORR conditionally authorised 710s for
passenger use in AC mode on Thursday.
If they're only to run on the Goblin, why do they have DC ability too? Will
they ever get sent down to Richmond?
They are also planned to run on West Anglia, NLL, WLL and Watford DC
but I don't think they are needed as urgently there.
Not the NLL, that's keeping the 378s.
Apparently some of the 710s will be used on the NLL to free up some 378s
for the ELL.
Mike Bristow
2019-04-15 17:45:44 UTC
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ORR conditionally authorised 710s for
passenger use in AC mode on Thursday.
https://orr.gov.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/40981/interoperability-authorisation-bombardier-class-710-2019-04-11.pdf
Thanks!
Post by David Walters
There seem to be a couple of thing Arriva Rail have to do before they
can run a passenger service though so we aren't quite there yet.
Well, if nothing else they have to train the drivers; hopefully
the two can be done in parallel.

Cheers,
Mike
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Recliner
2019-04-17 06:59:41 UTC
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Post by David Walters
ORR conditionally authorised 710s for
passenger use in AC mode on Thursday.
https://orr.gov.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/40981/interoperability-authorisation-bombardier-class-710-2019-04-11.pdf
Thanks!
Post by David Walters
There seem to be a couple of thing Arriva Rail have to do before they
can run a passenger service though so we aren't quite there yet.
Well, if nothing else they have to train the drivers; hopefully
the two can be done in parallel.
Driver training was reported to have started weeks ago, but I don't know if
the software issues got in its way.

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