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Sunday Times: Britain's favourite railway stations
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Recliner
2017-09-17 11:24:45 UTC
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Track stars: a celebration of Britain’s most spectacular railway stations

Our long-neglected stations are finally getting the attention they deserve,
says Simon Jenkins. Here are some of his favourites:

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Roland Perry
2017-09-17 11:42:18 UTC
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Track stars: a celebration of Britain’s most spectacular railway stations
Our long-neglected stations are finally getting the attention they deserve,
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s-most-spectacular-railway-stations-lj0bjt3w6?shareToken=5516dda42ca3710
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Clicking their quiz...

"Also known as Cambridge Science Park". No, it isn't. Network Rail and
the Science Park fell out at some point (I'm guessing the former wanted
bung from the latter, who realised it was too far away to be of any
practical use - too far to walk, too close to get a bus or taxi) and the
park isn't even mentioned in any of NR's blurb.
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2017-09-17 13:26:05 UTC
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Track stars: a celebration of Britain’s most spectacular railway stations
Our long-neglected stations are finally getting the attention they deserve,
<https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/track-stars-a-celebration-of-britain
s-most-spectacular-railway-stations-lj0bjt3w6?shareToken=5516dda42ca3710
1953c5acd87f6b9fc>
Clicking their quiz...
"Also known as Cambridge Science Park". No, it isn't. Network Rail and the
Science Park fell out at some point (I'm guessing the former wanted bung
from the latter, who realised it was too far away to be of any practical
use - too far to walk,
it's not too far to walk

don't be silly
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2017-09-17 15:56:10 UTC
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Track stars: a celebration of Britain_s most spectacular railway stations
Our long-neglected stations are finally getting the attention they
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Clicking their quiz...
"Also known as Cambridge Science Park". No, it isn't. Network Rail
and the Science Park fell out at some point (I'm guessing the former
wanted bung from the latter, who realised it was too far away to be
of any practical use - too far to walk, too close to get a bus or
taxi) and the park isn't even mentioned in any of NR's blurb.
The name "Cambridge Science Park" was agreed at one point but then Network
Rail changed their mind and, ignoring the stakeholders who had agreed
before, changed it to "Cambridge North"
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Roland Perry
2017-09-17 16:12:27 UTC
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Clicking their quiz...
"Also known as Cambridge Science Park". No, it isn't. Network Rail
and the Science Park fell out at some point (I'm guessing the former
wanted bung from the latter, who realised it was too far away to be
of any practical use - too far to walk, too close to get a bus or
taxi) and the park isn't even mentioned in any of NR's blurb.
The name "Cambridge Science Park" was agreed at one point
But was it contingent on a bung?
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but then Network Rail changed their mind
Because the bung was shown the door?
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Roland Perry
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2017-09-17 23:12:52 UTC
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Clicking their quiz...
"Also known as Cambridge Science Park". No, it isn't. Network Rail
and the Science Park fell out at some point (I'm guessing the former
wanted bung from the latter, who realised it was too far away to be
of any practical use - too far to walk, too close to get a bus or
taxi) and the park isn't even mentioned in any of NR's blurb.
The name "Cambridge Science Park" was agreed at one point
But was it contingent on a bung?
No. Roland. However bad things are, we are not yet a banana republic.
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but then Network Rail changed their mind
Because the bung was shown the door?
We have not been told.
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Roland Perry
2017-09-18 08:13:06 UTC
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Clicking their quiz...
"Also known as Cambridge Science Park". No, it isn't. Network Rail
and the Science Park fell out at some point (I'm guessing the former
wanted bung from the latter, who realised it was too far away to be
of any practical use - too far to walk, too close to get a bus or
taxi) and the park isn't even mentioned in any of NR's blurb.
The name "Cambridge Science Park" was agreed at one point
But was it contingent on a bung?
No. Roland. However bad things are, we are not yet a banana republic.
Have you missed the recent announcements form Network rail that no
future new infrastructure will be built other than mainly at the expense
of third parties? (I hope the NHS has a budget for Addenbrookes
Station).
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but then Network Rail changed their mind
Because the bung was shown the door?
We have not been told.
I'm pretty sure we have been told that the Science Park refused to
contribute to the cost of the station.
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Roland Perry
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2017-09-18 09:56:25 UTC
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Clicking their quiz...
"Also known as Cambridge Science Park". No, it isn't. Network Rail
and the Science Park fell out at some point (I'm guessing the former
wanted bung from the latter, who realised it was too far away to be
of any practical use - too far to walk, too close to get a bus or
taxi) and the park isn't even mentioned in any of NR's blurb.
The name "Cambridge Science Park" was agreed at one point
But was it contingent on a bung?
No. Roland. However bad things are, we are not yet a banana republic.
Have you missed the recent announcements form Network rail that no
future new infrastructure will be built other than mainly at the
expense of third parties? (I hope the NHS has a budget for
Addenbrookes Station).
Nothing to do with the NHS. You as usual overlook the huge number of
companies and other organisations than the NHS on the Biomedical Campus.

And you as usual grossly exaggerate. There are still government funds for
new stations and there is not yet a clear statement from the DfT how
enhancements will be managed and funded in CP6.
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but then Network Rail changed their mind
Because the bung was shown the door?
We have not been told.
I'm pretty sure we have been told that the Science Park refused to
contribute to the cost of the station.
I'm not aware they were asked, certainly not when the naming discussions
were taking place. It was a County Council project then, remember.
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Roland Perry
2017-09-18 10:44:23 UTC
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Clicking their quiz...
"Also known as Cambridge Science Park". No, it isn't. Network Rail
and the Science Park fell out at some point (I'm guessing the former
wanted bung from the latter, who realised it was too far away to be
of any practical use - too far to walk, too close to get a bus or
taxi) and the park isn't even mentioned in any of NR's blurb.
The name "Cambridge Science Park" was agreed at one point
But was it contingent on a bung?
No. Roland. However bad things are, we are not yet a banana republic.
Have you missed the recent announcements form Network rail that no
future new infrastructure will be built other than mainly at the
expense of third parties? (I hope the NHS has a budget for
Addenbrookes Station).
Nothing to do with the NHS. You as usual overlook the huge number of
companies and other organisations than the NHS on the Biomedical Campus.
The station is unviable if all it's for is the Biomedical Campus.
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And you as usual grossly exaggerate. There are still government funds for
new stations
Not according to recent statements from National Rail.
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and there is not yet a clear statement from the DfT how
enhancements will be managed and funded in CP6.
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but then Network Rail changed their mind
Because the bung was shown the door?
We have not been told.
I'm pretty sure we have been told that the Science Park refused to
contribute to the cost of the station.
I'm not aware they were asked, certainly not when the naming discussions
were taking place. It was a County Council project then, remember.
The council recommendation on the name wasn't until after Network Rail
had taken over the project when public sector funding collapsed. (From
the County's point of view, Network Rail is apparently private finance,
but I'd be astonished if Trinity hadn't been approached).
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Roland Perry
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2017-09-18 12:31:36 UTC
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Clicking their quiz...
"Also known as Cambridge Science Park". No, it isn't. Network
Rail and the Science Park fell out at some point (I'm guessing
the former wanted bung from the latter, who realised it was too
far away to be of any practical use - too far to walk, too close
to get a bus or taxi) and the park isn't even mentioned in any of
NR's blurb.
The name "Cambridge Science Park" was agreed at one point
But was it contingent on a bung?
No. Roland. However bad things are, we are not yet a banana republic.
Have you missed the recent announcements form Network rail that no
future new infrastructure will be built other than mainly at the
expense of third parties? (I hope the NHS has a budget for
Addenbrookes Station).
Nothing to do with the NHS. You as usual overlook the huge number of
companies and other organisations than the NHS on the Biomedical Campus.
The station is unviable if all it's for is the Biomedical Campus.
Oh, do stop being a pain, Roland! You seem to be forgetting what the
biomedical campus is. There's a clue in the name.
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And you as usual grossly exaggerate. There are still government funds for
new stations
Not according to recent statements from National Rail.
You weren't reading carefully enough. A clue may be that there is no such
body as "National Rail". Yes, I know it's an umbrella marketing name in the
industry.
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and there is not yet a clear statement from the DfT how
enhancements will be managed and funded in CP6.
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but then Network Rail changed their mind
Because the bung was shown the door?
We have not been told.
I'm pretty sure we have been told that the Science Park refused to
contribute to the cost of the station.
I'm not aware they were asked, certainly not when the naming discussions
were taking place. It was a County Council project then, remember.
The council recommendation on the name wasn't until after Network
Rail had taken over the project when public sector funding collapsed.
(From the County's point of view, Network Rail is apparently private
finance, but I'd be astonished if Trinity hadn't been approached).
Discussions were b=going on of which I was aware.
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Roland Perry
2017-09-18 12:56:26 UTC
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Have you missed the recent announcements form Network rail that no
future new infrastructure will be built other than mainly at the
expense of third parties? (I hope the NHS has a budget for
Addenbrookes Station).
Nothing to do with the NHS. You as usual overlook the huge number of
companies and other organisations than the NHS on the Biomedical Campus.
The station is unviable if all it's for is the Biomedical Campus.
Oh, do stop being a pain, Roland! You seem to be forgetting what the
biomedical campus is. There's a clue in the name.
Typo for Biomedical Research. And why would AZ etc stump up all the cash
if the NHS was refusing to contribute its fair share?
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And you as usual grossly exaggerate. There are still government funds for
new stations
Not according to recent statements from National Rail.
You weren't reading carefully enough. A clue may be that there is no such
body as "National Rail". Yes, I know it's an umbrella marketing name in the
industry.
Typo for Network Rail.
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Roland Perry
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2017-09-17 14:08:21 UTC
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Battersea Park looks surprisingly good; but I was at Crystal Palace for the first time in tears recently and that looked very good as well. Of course CP is quite a posh area, for south London.

Railway stations anywhere are a bit like churches: there's normally something of interest at every one.
Graeme Wall
2017-09-17 16:02:26 UTC
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Track stars: a celebration of Britain’s most spectacular railway stations
Our long-neglected stations are finally getting the attention they deserve,
<https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/track-stars-a-celebration-of-britains-most-spectacular-railway-stations-lj0bjt3w6?shareToken=5516dda42ca37101953c5acd87f6b9fc>
Is he going to do a book on x best stations to follow up his book on
churches, ah yes I see he's now done 100 Best Railway Stations, out next
week.
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Tony Dragon
2017-09-17 22:14:44 UTC
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Track stars: a celebration of Britain’s most spectacular railway stations
Our long-neglected stations are finally getting the attention they deserve,
<https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/track-stars-a-celebration-of-britains-most-spectacular-railway-stations-lj0bjt3w6?shareToken=5516dda42ca37101953c5acd87f6b9fc>
Nothing about St Pancras.

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