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Explosion at Southgate tube station
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Basil Jet
2018-06-19 21:50:06 UTC
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Not thought to be terror related.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5862467/Police-rush-scene-small-explosion-Southgate-Tube-Station.html
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NY
2018-06-20 07:43:19 UTC
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Not thought to be terror related.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5862467/Police-rush-scene-small-explosion-Southgate-Tube-Station.html
Now reported to be an explosion of a battery in a power tool.
Roland Perry
2018-06-20 08:04:34 UTC
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Not thought to be terror related.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5862467/Police-rush-scene-small-explosion-Southgate-Tube-Station.html
Now reported to be an explosion of a battery in a power tool.
Lithium, presumably.
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Charles Ellson
2018-06-21 04:22:58 UTC
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Not thought to be terror related.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5862467/Police-rush-scene-small-explosion-Southgate-Tube-Station.html
Now reported to be an explosion of a battery in a power tool.
Lithium, presumably.
Or Ni-Cad. Still in older tools and ISTR even some new ones. They used
to occasionally blow up telephones around 30y ago so the larger ones
in power tools should have a fair bit of oomph when they
self-destruct.
b***@cylonHQ.com
2018-06-20 08:42:28 UTC
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 08:43:19 +0100
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Not thought to be terror related.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5862467/Police-rush-scene-small-explosi
on-Southgate-Tube-Station.html
Now reported to be an explosion of a battery in a power tool.
And I'll bet all of the injuries were actually caused by idiots panicing
rather than the explosion itself.
NY
2018-06-20 09:02:27 UTC
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 08:43:19 +0100
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Basil Jet
Not thought to be terror related.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5862467/Police-rush-scene-small-explosi
on-Southgate-Tube-Station.html
Now reported to be an explosion of a battery in a power tool.
And I'll bet all of the injuries were actually caused by idiots panicing
rather than the explosion itself.
Given the terrorist bombs and other attacks at various sites around London
and the rest of the UK, I defy anyone *not* to assume the worst when there
is an explosion. Would you be able to react calmly and assess whether or not
this explosion was a bomb, in the heat of the moment?
b***@cylonHQ.com
2018-06-20 09:45:12 UTC
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 08:43:19 +0100
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Not thought to be terror related.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5862467/Police-rush-scene-small-explo
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on-Southgate-Tube-Station.html
Now reported to be an explosion of a battery in a power tool.
And I'll bet all of the injuries were actually caused by idiots panicing
rather than the explosion itself.
Given the terrorist bombs and other attacks at various sites around London
and the rest of the UK, I defy anyone *not* to assume the worst when there
is an explosion. Would you be able to react calmly and assess whether or not
this explosion was a bomb, in the heat of the moment?
I've been in a couple of serious car accidents over the years. I didn't panic
then and I doubt I'd panic just because something was on fire in a station
which has easy egress. That does mean I wouldn't hurry out but it does mean
I wouldn't be pushing people over and trampling old people on the way which
it seems is what happened to at least 1 old person there.
Recliner
2018-06-20 09:45:18 UTC
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 08:43:19 +0100
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Post by Basil Jet
Not thought to be terror related.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5862467/Police-rush-scene-small-explosi
on-Southgate-Tube-Station.html
Now reported to be an explosion of a battery in a power tool.
And I'll bet all of the injuries were actually caused by idiots panicing
rather than the explosion itself.
Given the terrorist bombs and other attacks at various sites around London
and the rest of the UK, I defy anyone *not* to assume the worst when there
is an explosion. Would you be able to react calmly and assess whether or not
this explosion was a bomb, in the heat of the moment?
Aha:

Police arrest London man on suspicion of "act likely to cause explosion"
after small blast at Southgate Tube station

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-44547726
John Williamson
2018-06-20 10:06:53 UTC
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Police arrest London man on suspicion of "act likely to cause explosion"
after small blast at Southgate Tube station
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-44547726
And released "under investigation" once they had chatted with him,
according to the Daily Fail article linked to up ^ there somewhere.

They arrest anyone likely to be even slightly connected with such
incidents as an @rse covering exercise, so that if they do decide to
prosecute, a clever lawyer can't later say "If you didn't think he was
innocent, why did you not arrest him immediately?" If it turns out he is
innocent, then the arrest should be marked as a false arrest.
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2018-06-20 10:16:46 UTC
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 08:43:19 +0100
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Post by Basil Jet
Not thought to be terror related.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5862467/Police-rush-scene-small-explosi
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on-Southgate-Tube-Station.html
Now reported to be an explosion of a battery in a power tool.
And I'll bet all of the injuries were actually caused by idiots panicing
rather than the explosion itself.
Given the terrorist bombs and other attacks at various sites around London
and the rest of the UK, I defy anyone *not* to assume the worst when there
is an explosion. Would you be able to react calmly and assess whether or not
this explosion was a bomb, in the heat of the moment?
Police arrest London man on suspicion of "act likely to cause explosion"
after small blast at Southgate Tube station
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-44547726
Either it was done deliberately or it wasn't, someone needs to make their
mind up.
Roland Perry
2018-06-20 10:27:48 UTC
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Not thought to be terror related.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5862467/Police-rush-scene-small-explosi
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on-Southgate-Tube-Station.html
Now reported to be an explosion of a battery in a power tool.
And I'll bet all of the injuries were actually caused by idiots panicing
rather than the explosion itself.
Given the terrorist bombs and other attacks at various sites around London
and the rest of the UK, I defy anyone *not* to assume the worst when there
is an explosion. Would you be able to react calmly and assess whether or not
this explosion was a bomb, in the heat of the moment?
Police arrest London man on suspicion of "act likely to cause explosion"
after small blast at Southgate Tube station
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-44547726
Either it was done deliberately or it wasn't, someone needs to make their
mind up.
Deliberate, but not as an act of terrorism, perhaps? For example taping
up a safety cut-out on a tool.
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2018-06-20 10:43:39 UTC
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 11:27:48 +0100
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Post by Recliner
Police arrest London man on suspicion of "act likely to cause explosion"
after small blast at Southgate Tube station
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-44547726
Either it was done deliberately or it wasn't, someone needs to make their
mind up.
Deliberate, but not as an act of terrorism, perhaps? For example taping
up a safety cut-out on a tool.
Possibly. I wouldn't be surprised if he'd done something stupid too it since
batteries don't generally burst into flames and when the do its when they're
being used. Unless they're in a Tesla.
tim...
2018-06-20 15:51:49 UTC
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Post by Recliner
Police arrest London man on suspicion of "act likely to cause explosion"
after small blast at Southgate Tube station
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-44547726
Either it was done deliberately or it wasn't, someone needs to make their
mind up.
Deliberate, but not as an act of terrorism, perhaps? For example taping
up a safety cut-out on a tool.
Possibly. I wouldn't be surprised if he'd done something stupid too it since
batteries don't generally burst into flames and when the do its when they're
being used. Unless they're in a Tesla.
or a Nokia

tim
Jeremy Double
2018-06-21 07:28:14 UTC
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Post by Recliner
Police arrest London man on suspicion of "act likely to cause explosion"
after small blast at Southgate Tube station
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-44547726
Either it was done deliberately or it wasn't, someone needs to make their
mind up.
Deliberate, but not as an act of terrorism, perhaps? For example taping
up a safety cut-out on a tool.
Possibly. I wouldn't be surprised if he'd done something stupid too it since
batteries don't generally burst into flames and when the do its when they're
being used. Unless they're in a Tesla.
or a Nokia
Or a Boeing Dreamliner

(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_787_Dreamliner_battery_problems )
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2018-06-22 08:43:14 UTC
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Police arrest London man on suspicion of "act likely to cause explosion"
after small blast at Southgate Tube station
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-44547726
Either it was done deliberately or it wasn't, someone needs to make their
mind up.
Deliberate, but not as an act of terrorism, perhaps? For example taping
up a safety cut-out on a tool.
Possibly. I wouldn't be surprised if he'd done something stupid too it since
batteries don't generally burst into flames and when the do its when they're
being used. Unless they're in a Tesla.
or a Nokia
Or a Boeing Dreamliner
(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_787_Dreamliner_battery_problems )
Apparently the "solution" to that was to put the battery in a stronger more
fire resistent box. Doesn't exactly fill one with confidence, nor IMO does
does the fact that most of the plane is composite when composite failures
have caused a number of airbus rudders to fall off and composites can't be
checked as easily as aluminium for fatique cracking. The 787s might be fine
now but you'd have to be pretty brave to fly in one in 20 years time IMO.
Roland Perry
2018-06-21 16:52:38 UTC
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batteries don't generally burst into flames and when the do its when
they're being used. Unless they're in a Tesla.
or a Nokia
The one I heard of was the Galaxy Note 7.
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John Williamson
2018-06-21 20:55:46 UTC
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batteries don't generally burst into flames and when the do its when
they're  being used. Unless they're in a Tesla.
or a Nokia
The one I heard of was the Galaxy Note 7.
The ones that went viral and prompted a recall a while ago were in
laptop computers made by a corporation named after a fruit that burst
into flames while being charged.

Then there were the others in various makes of Wintel computers which
all used cells from the same factory...
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Basil Jet
2018-06-20 11:29:57 UTC
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Either it was done deliberately or it wasn't, someone needs to make their
mind up.
I'd rather the police gathered evidence before they made their minds up.
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Basil Jet - listening to music from 1981(G-Q) ... Gang Of Four - Gary
Numan - Glenn Branca - Grace Jones - Heaven 17 - Holger Czukay - Japan -
Joe Jackson - Josef K - Killing Joke - Kissing The Pink - Klaus Nomi -
Kraftwerk - MX-80 Sound - Madness - Magazine - Massacre - Material -
Maximum Joy - Meat Puppets - Michael Nyman - Minutemen - Mission Of
Burma - Moebius & Plank - New Musik - New Order - Orange Juice - Palais
Schaumburg - Public Image Ltd - Pulp
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