Post by Recliner Post by michael adams
You may well know that, and his fellow drivers may well know that,
but do the general public ? If B J's example is allowed as a real
possibility, is it realistic to suppose that LU would immediately
own up to real possibility that their trains are at fault, without
first holding some sort of internal enquiry ?
Post by Recliner
The question was whether the reports of such door openings were
The actual door problem appears to have been acknowledged, investigated and
fixed. It was apparently a fault in a single door engine, and no-one blamed
To repeat "The question was whether the reports of such door openings were
In other words, when supposedly trusted employees of LT, trusted sufficiently
to be able to drive trains at least., report a problem with doors, "a question"
immediately arises as to whether they're simply telling lies or not.
And then it turns out that "apparently" the drivers weren't telling lies or making
things up after all.
That's what you're saying in effect, is it not ?
Post by Recliner
But the union still used it as an excuse for industrial
The union didn't use it as an "excuse" for anything. Although possibly they were
justifiably disappointed that the first recourse of LT management
whenever drivers report a problem who's effects aren't manifestly
apparent, is to suggest that the drivers are lying or making things up.
Although as I've already said, and in answer to your diatribe in your other post
the problem is not that the drivers are always in the right and the management
always in the wrong, but even in those cases where they are in the right they're
inadequately represented such that their point is not put across. If they
employed PR smoothies to represent them in the media as do LU -
then possibly they'd come over better.
As to management and the board. My 3rd most frequently used line is the
Central Line. For the new stock some genius presumably persuaded numerous
committees and boards that it would be a nice idea to have wrap around
windows up to the ceiling to allow the punters to better view the Essex
countryside. Unfortunately it was only after the new stock came on stream
that it was realised that in the absence of air-conditioning the insides of the
car became unbearably hot in sunny weather. Like little greenhouses
in fact. Now who'd have thought ? So that as result all the windows ended up
tinted. Which while maybe looking stylish to types attracted to that sort of thing
had the unfortunate result that passengers standing outside on the platform are
unable to see inside and which carriages are full and which are empty.
One possible solution might be to blank out the additional window area with
opaque film do reducing it to what it was before. However that's unlikely to
happen as it would be a living testament to the monumental
cock-up that was seemingly perpetrated at all levels of LT management.
Instead Central Line passengers are going to have to suffer a situation
where they can't see inside a train before boarding for the next, what
40 years ?
Oh and having done a bit of reading up. Apparently owing to the
brake thing plus the leaves on the Uxbridge line trains on the Piccadilly Line
are the most susceptible to flats. Which is why it was such a great idea
to put the only truing lathe in the maintenance pit at Northfelds depot
where its use would preclude other maintenance functions.
Although of course unlike the stroppy drivers who are all to real to some people
this stuff is only "rumours" appearing on blogs etc rather than LU hand-outs